Posts by Yan Bibiyan

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Hi I am new. Thanks for the food at the proper time.

by 2+2=5 in

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i have been lurking on this forum for a few months and thought it was time i joined in.

a big thankyou goes to all who post here, i have enjoyed immensely all the thought provoking discussion and not so thought provoking (thanks recovery/ethos).

i have had heaps to get my head around recently learning the truth about the truth and as i remember reading here before its like digesting a brick.

Yan Bibiyan

Welcome!

Have a cold one in honor of your awakeninig .

-Yan

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Sorry for how long this is but I just had to share...

by dazed but not confused in

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this first post will be a letter from my friend who hasn't spoken to me since i told him nearly a year ago i was no longer a witness.

name not included.

again sorry its so long.

Yan Bibiyan

I understand, I also have the urge to pick things apart sometimes.

Frustrating, man, I know.....

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Sorry for how long this is but I just had to share...

by dazed but not confused in

jw
friends

this first post will be a letter from my friend who hasn't spoken to me since i told him nearly a year ago i was no longer a witness.

name not included.

again sorry its so long.

Can you logically say that all 8 MILLION of us are THAT stupid? Do you think we or just I, enjoy going to other peoples houses to talk to them about these things? I like tatoos A LOT, smokin weed, would enjoy the challenge of getting rich by spending a lot more time working as a GM at the restaurant and start opening my own, have a big beard, cuss, crazy hair, etc etc....... Give my hard earned money and time repeatedly.Do you think that I would refrain from theses things just because I had some hunch or if just POSSIBLY the things I studied were true? And what about ALL those other ones sacrificing there time and resources? We would be FOOLS! I wouldn't make such sacrifices unless I was 100% sure that this was the Truth. I wouldn't be worth it. NO ONE can and has EVER proven the things in the Bible to be not true. On the contrary, MOST (so far) have been proven and confirmed through archeological findings, other writings, caninicity, etc. And other philosophies have been either proven wrong, or CAN'T BE PROVEN RIGHT.

Here is your key.

He is actually affraid that he could be wrong.

Ask him to drop the generalities and research an confirm at least ONE thing of the diatribe above.

There are so many logical fallacies up there, starting with Argumentum ad populum, that is not even funny. And he starts with "Can you logically say..."

EDIT: If presented with the "8 Million JW's can't be wrong", you can say " Then 2 billion Muslims could absolutely NOT be wrong"?

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New jw.org video on sexual harassment blames the victim

by puffthedragon in

hope this is not a repost 2 minute video.

http://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/family/teenagers/what-your-peers-say/peers-on-sexual-harassment/.

yes, it spends half the video blaming the victim for "inviting" sexual harassment..

Yan Bibiyan

Shouldn't sisters just shut up and be submissive anyway?

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What old Baseball Cards teach us about the value of the BIBLE

by Terry in

a 1914 babe ruth rookie baseball card - just the tenth card of its kind to be discovered - which sold at auction in april.

the card was produced by the baltimore sun newspaper.

the second most valuable baseball card behind only the 1909 m206 honus wagner tobacco card (which recently sold at auction for $2.35 million).

Yan Bibiyan

You mean, there is no mandatory baseball history and theory in schools?

The town council meeting does not start with a ceremonial pitch?

We do not end our day by reciting a Babe Ruth poem?

What joke of a life is that? What is its purpose?

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Christianity gives you....ummm...ummm....exactly what?

by Terry in

christianity:.

you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. you pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum but you force a smile and forgive.. .

if you are abused?

Yan Bibiyan

here the bottom line of the bottom ,if christ is not the foundation of your belief than thats a good indication your faith is wrong

Wow, just WOW!! .....

In one sentence, you pretty much belittled and sent down the spiritual drain about 75% of humanity....

A little self-righteous, no?

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Christianity gives you....ummm...ummm....exactly what?

by Terry in

christianity:.

you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. you pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum but you force a smile and forgive.. .

if you are abused?

Yan Bibiyan

i think the real question should be without chirst what ummm ummm do you have?

and a Muslim would say: ".. i think the real question should be without christmohammed what ummm ummm do you have?"

Why is he WRONG and you are RIGHT?...or are you both WRONG?

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A populations numbers game: After the flood

by PSacramento in

on another forum:.

with the flood at about 4,500 years ago, it needs less than 0.5% per year growth.

i think today's rate is about 1.7%.

Yan Bibiyan

This isn't really about the noah story, it's about how feesible it is that the current human population we have now could have come from a small group pf people

Almost. A small group of (genetically) different people perhaps.

If you blindly apply arithmetics, yes a progression (or compound interest) can quickly add up to huge numbers.

But if you take genetics into account, the whole story becomes so overleveraged that is not even funny.

There is a reason why incest does not produce offspring and if it does it is severely compromized on many levels, as well as often unable to reproduce.

If I recall correctly, the absolute genetic bottleneck is 50 couples completely unrelated to each other in order to have any chance of survival.

If we are to accept genetics as they are (and benefit from the results of their research), let's not be intelectually dishonest and ignorant when it comes to the application of the same principals to our ancestors.

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Christianity gives you....ummm...ummm....exactly what?

by Terry in

christianity:.

you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. you pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum but you force a smile and forgive.. .

if you are abused?

Yan Bibiyan

for example can everyone here including me, honestly say that we never lusted after someone other than our mate?

Ironically, the same lust is what you made you mates in a first place.

Even more ironically, the same god that we "need" to make us right found it prefectly fine to act upon such lust where polygamy is practiced...

Am I missing something?

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Christianity gives you....ummm...ummm....exactly what?

by Terry in

christianity:.

you get struck on the cheek and you pony up for the other slap.. you pray for the enemy who wants you face down in the mud with his heel on your neck.. you get treated like pond scum but you force a smile and forgive.. .

if you are abused?

Yan Bibiyan

UR:

.....i truly believe that when we are in the presense of god, we will see how vail and wicked we all are compared to him

unstopable, I don't think there could be a long enough post to demonstrate the opposite, quoting directly from the holy source...